[Masterlance]

Archers are by far the weakest class. Classes are too imbalanced

Not many people even bother playing them higher level as mages are widely known as the huge damage hitting machines. Most people just wind up quitting archer altogether.

If you try to go to Uruga or Ancient Elvin Woods, most tanks, clerics, and other people do not even wish to party an archer. It's not always true if you have friends or guilds but as a random person looking for a party, surely a mage can find one 10x quicker than an archer.

The aoe poison at level 51 does not help much at all. Really.... The damage per second is too low or the skill damage needs to be improved.

Compare all the mage skills to that of an archer and it's ridiculous amount.


Archers can't even duo aoe trumpy's or pixy or archon at level 60+ , whereas mage with their low defense can lure about 10+ and aoe them dead in a matter of seconds. An archer the same level as the mage will take approximately 45-55 seconds. I tested it with CG+9 xbow.

What needs to be improved is the damage of the weapons archers get... or at least the skill damage... As of now archers are very weak and invaluable to any party...

Being level 60+ gets boring fast when a level 40 mage can kill just as fast....

Obviously people will say archers are good for solo. Well that is not true. How are they good at solo? A Mage with low defense is good at solo. Not an archer who takes 30-40 seconds at level 60 to kill 1 trumpy! with the best equipment a cg xbow+9 with good stats and good rings of elderine. The damage of archer is WAY TO LOW and I wish many of the high level mages would at least agree and put yourself in our shoes for once.

Like other games, the class imbalances are usually there, but most of the time NOTHING will be DONE. So my rant will just be pointless, unless dakkon experiments and uses a 50 or 60+ archer with best gear and uses 50-60+ mage with best gear and all other classes and just kills in Ancient elvin woods or some other area.

The other class that suffers a lot is clerics. In a sec, I will link you to a post, once I find it, that sums up cleric high level. http://www.outspark.com/forums/showt...=cleric+skills

[Serric]

Originally Posted by Masterlance

Archers are by far the weakest class. Classes are too imbalanced

Not many people even bother playing them higher level as mages are widely known as the huge damage hitting machines. Most people just wind up quitting archer altogether.

If you try to go to Uruga or Ancient Elvin Woods, most tanks, clerics, and other people do not even wish to party an archer. It's not always true if you have friends or guilds but as a random person looking for a party, surely a mage can find one 10x quicker than an archer.

The aoe poison at level 51 does not help much at all. Really.... The damage per second is too low or the skill damage needs to be improved.

Compare all the mage skills to that of an archer and it's ridiculous amount.


Archers can't even duo aoe trumpy's or pixy or archon at level 60+ , whereas mage with their low defense can lure about 10+ and aoe them dead in a matter of seconds. An archer the same level as the mage will take approximately 45-55 seconds. I tested it with CG+9 xbow.

What needs to be improved is the damage of the weapons archers get... or at least the skill damage... As of now archers are very weak and invaluable to any party...

Being level 60+ gets boring fast when a level 40 mage can kill just as fast....

Obviously people will say archers are good for solo. Well that is not true. How are they good at solo? A Mage with low defense is good at solo. Not an archer who takes 30-40 seconds at level 60 to kill 1 trumpy! with the best equipment a cg xbow+9 with good stats and good rings of elderine. The damage of archer is WAY TO LOW and I wish many of the high level mages would at least agree and put yourself in our shoes for once.

Like other games, the class imbalances are usually there, but most of the time NOTHING will be DONE. So my rant will just be pointless, unless dakkon experiments and uses a 50 or 60+ archer with best gear and uses 50-60+ mage with best gear and all other classes and just kills in Ancient elvin woods or some other area.

The other class that suffers a lot is clerics. In a sec, I will link you to a post, once I find it, that sums up cleric high level. http://www.outspark.com/forums/showt...=cleric+skills

As much as I agree with much of what you are saying (I am an archer myself), this post should really by in the 'Class Balance Issues' thread: http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35363

We don't need a ton of duplicate threads being opened, sorry.

[Masterlance]

Originally Posted by Serric

As much as I agree with much of what you are saying (I am an arcehr myself), this post should really by in the 'Class Balance Issues' thread: http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35363

We don't need a ton of duplicate threads being opened, sorry.

You're right, but I do like the attention from time to time

[Serric]

Originally Posted by Masterlance

You're right, but I do like the attention from time to time

LOLIRL!

[smitske]

please dont post extra threads bout something if there is already a sticky that will surely be watched at by the GM.

[adryden1313]

i have to disagree about archers...*being one myself* i can take a lot more hits than a mage can =0)

[smitske]

ye but u hit a lot lower, and mages do instant damage, you need time before u really do damage with skills co,sidering they are DoT's

[BlueiceBoy]

Being a fighter level 58+, I have to agree with this post. I will admit that at times when looking for a damage dealer, I have chosen mages over archers and sometimes kept the party at 4 members even though an archer was asking for a group. Fact of the matter is : Archers hit too low amount of damage, they shoot skillls too slow, their 60+ skills dont help much. Most people who disagree will probably be of lower level. The higher levels 40-60+ will agree most with this user.

[Knifey]

a level 34 archer was hitting harder than my level 39 mage. this thread makes me think you dont know what you're talking about. archers need to do less damage not more. they have more hp, they poison, they shouldnt be able to hit like a mage.

and mages do instant damage? yeah instant damage every 15 seconds thanks to a huge cool down. we run away a lot farther than archers do.

yes it was a str build archer vs int & spr build mage. But it goes to show how similar they hit just depending on the freestats can tip archers over the line to make them more powerful. mage have skills like lightning (stun) and manaburn that dont even work. so at higher levels maybe your right but not where i am.

[tarugo]

By the time both classes reach Level 60, the mage becomes a god. The archer becomes a peon. You should read more on the Archer's section for complaints.